1955 Suburban Road Committee
ST. mO))lI.l~S, Ontario.
lfovember 24th. 1955.
TIm ST. lJ.TfIOIVLAS SUBURB.AN ROADS COIW\O:SSION
met at 'the Court Ho'use at 4 p.m.
w. R. COULTER
R. B. BOVfEY
GEORGE CROSS
F. A. BELL
THE MINUTES of the meetings held on
August 3Clth., september '''till. and O<rtober 17th. were read and
aln?roved.
Present were:
c. C. p.A.RKER &, lhSSOCIATES, oonsulting Engineers,
submitted revised preliminary plans of the FiIlgal B.rictge,
the Estimated Cost being $ ~9,OOO.OO.
TEE FOLLOVVING RESOLUTIONS Viere adopted:-
IT W.A.S ]\,10VED BY
SECONDED BY
R. B. BOVfEY
GEORGE CROSS
'ffiAT APl?ROV KL be gi. ven to the preliminary Plans
and Estima-tes of the Fingal Brictge as submitted by C. C. P.A.RICER and
Associates. Consulting Engineers, dated 110vember 16th. 1955.
C.A.RRIED .
IT WAS MOVJ1JD BY
GJiJORCFE CROSS
ST~aOEDED BY
R. B. BOVllh'-
mAT THE OFF1~R of lVII'S. ]JIelbourneParkerto convey
the South 1Jvest corner of Lot 8, Concession 4, Tovfnship of Yarmouth,
as required for improving Road # 22 S. A. tor the sum of $ 500.00
'be accepted and that the eOtll1:t;y Solicitor be instructed to prepare
the necessary deed.
CARHIED.
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Novelllber 24th. 1955.
A LETTER from M:ayor Laing, address6<1
'to Wa.rden sohleiha:ut was read. The M:ayor urged that
more a.(ltion betaken i:n ge't,tingthe Canad.ian Na tio:nal
Rail'll'lTays, st. George street Grade separationundeJ:'l~a.y.
mE OB.AIRM..4N Yvas instrueted to repl~r
to :Mayor Laing.
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ST. THOl\fI.^...S, O:rrtario.
October l7'th. 1955.
IfFrE Sff'. THOMAS SUBURB...4JI ROADS C~OM1\rrSSIO}I
me'tat ,theCo'twt HOl-lse at 4: p.m. .All the :Members weI~e present.
W. 0:. Miller, Gi,ty Engi11.eer,attellded the meeting.
'f.ElE PRELIMINARY pL.AN'Softhe Finga.l Bridge,
prepared by C. C. Parker and. .l\.ssoeia.tes, Consulting l~nginears,
London, were e:x:amin.ed. 'fhe proposed bridge as shovm olll,the plans
oansis'bed of 1 1M 85 foot and 1 - 50 toot Reinforoed (Jollerete
Rigid Frame, with a 35 foot roadway anc[t
1.. :5 fao't Side'tvalk at an estimated eost of $ 68,907.00.
This estimate did not inolude paving ,the floor or brolk and oreek erosion.
~ FOLLOVVING CHANGES in-the plans Viera requested:-
1. 'I'.trE SIDEWALK to be construoted on the North side Qtthe Bridge
iasteai oftha South side as shovv.u on the plans.
2. THE: NEW' E.AS1f .ABtYf'N~)lT be placed about 10 feet Vve at of
~he old East pie~.
~. !HE NEW Vl1Ii':SFf ABUT1VIENT be placed about 2fJ fee't West of
the old. West :pier.
4. 'rIfE BOTT01~ ,OF TBJ!: e:EN'TRID PIER be placed at elevation 286 tee't.
whioh is fOUJ? fee-t lower than shovm OR the prelimi:na.ry plan.
'!BE NEThV BRIDGE will be
a 85 1'oo't span ontha Wes't side and
a 40 toot span on the ~st side.
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THIS vaLL GIV1s approximately 8 tee't more than
the present span.
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ST. THONlAS,Ontarlo.
September 7'th. 1955.
A JOINT :MEETING of the Suburban Roads Conrmission and
a Special Committee of the st. Thomas City Council me't at
'the Cour'b House at 4: :p .m..
PRES~TT
vr. R. COULTER
GEORGE CROSS
a. R. ID\lv:I1:dE:HSLEY
F. A. BELlJ
vv. a. lVIILLEH
'l'E]!; IIJIE]~TING was called to deoide on thel preparation
of plans for the c ons'cruction of a nevV' brio.ge, knovvu as'che
Fingal Bridge on Tal1b)ot street, over Ket'cle Creek:.
]JTI]SSRS. P.ARKIER lillID ASTRU]Jf of the firm of
C.C. PABKI~R & A-SSOaIATES LIMITED, Consul'ting Engi.neers,
attended the meeting and informed the COmnU'ttees that,
a:tthe reques-t of vV. C. lflLLER, 'they" had examinecl the
present structu.re and that they would submit :plans and
specifications for a new structu.re in a monthts tiime.
I\ff.r. Parker estimated the probable cost of constructing
a reinforcecl concre'te structure about 130 feet long with
a wid,th providing for 5- 11 foot lanes anil a fi,re foot
Sidewalk would v'a
$ 75,000.00, with an additional sum
of' about
;~ 10,000.00 for removing ,the old
structu.re, providing for traffic 'while the bridge was
being ereclted and protec,ting the banks from scouring.
Engineering fees would be 3-1/2% of the cost.
THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION was adopted:-
IT W.AJ3 MOV}};)) BY
GEORGE CROSS
SECOND1TID BY
C. R. H.MJ.IDJJERSL11:Y
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september 7th. 1955.
THAT' c. a . P ...L\.RK11:R .l.\.ND ASsoaIATES, IJ:JltIITED,
Consul'ttn.g Engineers be inst:ructedto prepare plans,
specifications and estimates for a new reinforced c~oncrete
bridge, on Talbot street, over Kettle Creek, knovm as
'the FINGAL BRIDGE.
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ST. TH01l11AS, Ontario.
Augus't 30t;h. 1955.
A JOINT MEETING of the Suburban RoacLs co:mmission and
a SpeCial Coromittee of the st. lfhomas Council 111e't at the Court House
at 4: p.m.
Present
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Vi. R. COUL'fER
GEORGE CROSS
R. B. BOvrEY
C. R. H.8]JIIVlJ:ERSLEY
F. A. BELL
'if. C. IVlILLER
T:n:Fi: !In!:ETING was called to discuss the preparation
of plans for the construction of a new bridge over Kettle Creek
on Talbot stree't, known. as the Fingal Bridge.
ON llccom~T of the work involved i't was dec:ided
to engage a Consulting Engineer to submit Plans ancl Specifications
tor the new' structure.
l\JIR. :MILLER inforl11edthe 00111mi ttees t;hat he 'would
contact O. C. PARICER, Consulting Engineer and a.rra:rlge to have him
attend a meeting with the Committees.
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ST. TIiOMAS. ontario.
July 6th. 19155.
'!'HE ST. mO~JIAS SUB'tJRBAJI ROADS COMt~O:SSION
m.et at the (;(.)'u.r'b flo'use at 10 a.m. All the M:embeI~s were present.
'fRE NIDroTES of the meeting held 011 :Ma.r<l~h 30th.
were read ani approved.
If.EIE FoLL()~rJ:lIG G~ living North oj~ the
st. George strae't, Canadian National Railways Or(l)ssing
ailtend.edthe Mee'ting:-
GORDON LnmSAY
IJtll\lC.AN MeEAm
O. TJNI)ERHILL
LORtiE N.l't:mROE
ENrE:RY SMITH
TIm DEP1J'.i'ATION wished to knovv what pro~ess was bein.g
made on the plans for eoltstructingthe proposei SubvTay and infor.med
the C0mmi~siotlers ,that th.ey were :not i11 favou~ of having Flash Signals
I'ns'talled.
'fhey were in.formed 'that the preparatio'n of the :plans showing
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the best 10cation of the Subway will prooeed as soon as contour plans
of ,the territory are received. The contour plellLS are prepared from
aerial pho'tographs. ~tr. Miller, City Engineer, informed ]1fr. Bell
that ,the gromd surveys have been completed and that instructions
have been given to have the contour :plans prepared.
'fBE. FOLLOVlJING RESOLUTION was adopted:..
I'l' WAS MOVED BY
SECONDED BY
GEORGE CROSS
ROY BO 1f\JEY
THP.T the ecunty Engineer be instructed to iDvestigate
the advisability ef improvillS the intersection of su'b>u.rba.n Road
IJ 22 SA and County Road. # "'at Plains Churoh.
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ST. TEtOI~~S, Ontario.
r~areh 30th. 1955.~
T.ffE ST. THO]!IAS SUBURB.lU~ ROADS C01illiJIISSION
meet at the CourtHouse at 2.30 :p.m.
Present - W. R. COUL1TER
- GEORGE CROSS
- FRED. A. BEI1L, Coon ty EnginE~er
'rEm MINUTES of the mee'tinge held on
February 11th. and Maron 21st. were read and approved.
A J.J!iTTER FROM W. :r. RUPERT, Superintenden't
of the Canadian ~ational Railways, was read. Th~e Railw'ay
Company asked tor approval of their Plan S. D 35:26, showing
a proposed layout of installing tlashing light s:i.gnals at
'the st. George stree't Canadian I\fa tional Ra.ilv\rays Crossing.
THE: FOLLOvVING RESOLUTION vvas adopted:-
IT WAS P,,~OVED BY
GEORGE CROSS
THAT the Commission approves the installation
of FlaShing Signals at the Canadian National Railways
st. George street CrOSSing as shovm on the plans submitted
by the Canadian National Railways and as shov1.n on
Plan S. D. 3526.
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ST. TH01ll\S, Ontario.
Nlarch 21st. 195~i.
THE SlJBURBAN ROADS COTI.ILMISSION
met representatives ottha City of st. Thomas at 3 :p.m.
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a'tthe Court House 'to discuss the advisability of
reconstructing the Fingal Bridge. IiIr. Coulter ac;tacl
as Chairman.
rr:HE FO LL01;VIl\fG v'lERrl: PRESEl\fT:-
w. R. COULTER
GEORGE CROSS
C. R. ~RSLEY
Vi[. C. IvITLLER
FI.:rniD. A. BELL
.AFT'ER aONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION the following
resolution was ado]?ted:-
I TWAS nll:ffiTED BY
GEORGE H. CROSS
SECONDED BY
c. H. IL41VJivIEHSL:l1Y
THAT TIm COmITY AND CITY E:'N'GINIsERS
make sUJ.-veys and prepare preliminazrtJ plans and esti:m.ates
for constru.cting a :new 'bridge over Kat-tIe Greek, kn()WIl as
the FING...l\L BRIDGE.
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ST. THO~~S, Ontario.
March 10th. 1955.
A ~ETING OF 'J!IfE ST. THONIAS SUBURB_AN ROADS eOI\llvUSSION
was held attl1e Court House at 2.30 p.m.
PRESEI\fT
CHAImrIi~ W. R. COULTER
GEORGE GROSS
FRED. A. BELL.
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THE ThITNUTES OF THE ~mETINGheld bn Febrw~ry 11th.
were read and approved.
A LETTER from ErXles't C. Reid, CifY Clerk, . was read.
He informed the Commission that the City Co~eil passed. the
fOllovving resolution in regular session on lqlareh 7th.
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"'i'HA.'r pl.1rsual1 t to the report of the Ci~y Engineer
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in regard. totl1e Fingal Roa.d Bridge, Iv.le advise
the Suburban Roa.ds COmmiSSiOll that the City Council
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.is strongly in favour of' repla.oing t~e existing
struoture with a new one, and that w~ are prepared
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"GO bear our portion of the oost of sheh replaeementft"
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}mR. COULTER was instructed to noFifY 1~. Reid
-to arrange a meeting of the City 00$oi1 and the COmT111ssion
to discuss the details for the eonst~uotion of a ne.w' bridge
at the site of the Fillga.l Bridge thils year.
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THE
ST. THOIlAS
S1J.B(JRBJ}J:\f ROADS
COWifISSION
me't at the Court House at 2 .~O p.m.
PRT~S:l11r.r
VI. R. COULTER
GEORGE CROSS
FRED. A. BEJ.JL
TEE MEETING v~{as oalled to discuss the condition of the
FINGAL BRIDGE. The concrete floor on the bridge has tai1ed in two
pla.ces SiltCe January 1st. and temporary repairs \vera lllade.
T.ErE BRIDGE was bail t in 1899. 1'1; is 12() feet lo'ng and
16 fee't wide betvveen curbs. on examination it ,vas fcnmd. that the
conerete in the floor has deteriated to such an exten1j that the floor
is .not safe for 'traffic.
THE COWTY ENGINEER submitted ,the aocoillJ?allying estimates
for ref100ring the bridge with various materials.
1'1' WAS FELT by the CormnissiGners that als 'the lifetime (l)f
the structure is very short that the cheapest 'type of tl0orin.g should.
be la.id.
T.8J!: OHAIRMAN was instruetedto notify 'the Oouncil of
the City of st. Thomastl1at the Commission is of the Opil'lion that
a New Bridge should be ereoted this year, if possible. In case the
Oouncil wishes to leave the construction of a new structare for a few
years then a nevv ,timber floor should be placed on the bridge this winter,
and intha:t ca.se that the old. railing be removed andt'tJI10 lines of
steel Flex Beam.s 'be placed on each truss.
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ENGINEER AND ROAD SUPERINTENDENT
GEORGE fOWt.-!S
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COURT HOUSE,
ST. THOMAS, ONT.
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ST. TH01JIAS, Ontario.
d"anuary 17th. 1~55,.
TEE ST. THOM.AS SUBURBAN RO.ADS OOWMISSIOB
met a't the Court ltwse at 2 p.m. All 'the Members wej~e present.
Mr. E.F.S. Sanders, Oounty Solicitor and Mr. F. A. BE~11,
County Engineer attended the meeting.
MR. BEtLS11bmit,ted a s'ta:tenlellt of the City ()t S't.Thomas'
share tor the 1954 e:x::penditures and the following ref~ol1;ltion VlTas adopted:-
IT W,AS MOVED BY
SECONDED BY
GEORGE CROSS
R. B. BOVVEY
mAT 'mE STAT~ of the 1954 Expenditures totalling $ 33,065.78
be approved andtha't the City of st. Thomas be billecl for its
share of the cos't, 'to'talling
$ 8,219.'8.
CARRIED.
MR. BELL submitted an Estima.te for m.a.intaini.ng and oonstructing
works 'under ,the jurisdic,tion of the Commission.
IT WAS MOVED BY
R. B.BO\VJ1'Y
SECOEDED BY
GEORGE CROSS
THAT THE REPORT o~ Fred. A. Bell, County Engineer be
accepted a.ndthat $ 45,000.00 vvill be required for the maintenance
and eOlls'cruetion of the SuburbaJa Roads fortl1e eUrrel3.'t year, based
on the Estimate at'taohedto the Engineer's Report.
C.ARRIED .
A. COpy OF TB]~ S1:1BMISBION of the City of st. ThoDlS.S made
'to the Department ot HighVfa.yS in 'foroIlrto on January l.l'th. regarding
the proposed st. George stree't Grade Separation, was read and after
muoh disc:nllssion it was decided to eOllsultwith the Special eonnn.1ttee
to be appointed by the County Council.
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ENGINEER AND ROAD SUPERINTENDENT
GEORGE POWLES
ASSISTANT ROAD SUPERINTENDENT
COURT HC)USE.
ST. THOMAS. ONT.
danuary l~'th. 1955.
ESTIMATE - StJ.BlJRBAN ROADS CONIMISSIOJI' 1955
(Not in.cluding st. Geerge street C~rade separation)
LA'IIJlG I, MILE ROAD .IJIOLCH PAV~UmT
RESURFACING AND PREP.A.RING ROADS FOR PAVING
SEAL COATING 8 MILES P.AVE!v1ENT
REPAIRS TO PAVEMENTS
MAIIS1TENANCE WITH GRADERS
WEED ,AN!) BRUSH CONTROL
smow AND ICE CONTROL
PROTEOTION C. & o. CROSSING - lfiDDL:EMARCH
FE.\lClliG AND GUARD RAILS '
SIGNS, CENTRE STRIP P.AD1lTING, ETC.
DRAINAGE AND DITCHING
DUST CONTROL
SlJPERINTENDmtCE .AND OFFICE ASSISFfANCE
COMMISSIOJiER'S FEES .AND EXPENSES
DBtTRA:NCE
m:SCJi:IJ't01EOUS
BRIDGES AND CULVERTS
ESTmATJID - C'ITY OF ST. THOMAS' S1i.ARE
25% or $ 41,,000.00
10% ot 4,000.00
9,000.00
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12,000..00
1,5C)O..OO
1,000.00
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2f50.00
1,500.00
2,&00.00
600.00
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500.00
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41 , 000..00
4,000.09-
45,000.00
10,250.00
400.00
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FRED A. BELL, B,Se., O. L. S., M.E.I.C.,
ENGINEER AND ROAD SUPERINTENDENT
GEORGE POWLES
ASSISTANT ROAD SUPERINTENDENT
COURT HOUSE,
ST. THOMAS, ONT.
dianua.~r 11th. 195,5.
aITY: OF ST. THOMAS
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S't1BURB.A:N ROADS
RESURF ACINCfANIr"'$(fRADlNG
REPAIRS TO PAVEl.\JDmTS
SEAL COATING OLD P AVEllmNTS
,PAVING 2 MILJ~S TAR MULCH - ROAD fJ 22
vVEJ1"D AND BRUSH CO!nROL
SNOW AND ICE CO~]TROL
PROTtl1CTION C. &, O. CROSSING, :MIDDLElVtLU"1CH
FEN'OIBG AND GUARD RAILS
SIGNS
'DRAINAGE AND DITCHING
DUST COmTROL
OUTRE STRIP P .AINTING
StJPERINTEl\lD:ENCE .ABD OFFICE ASSISTANCE
COMMISSIONERtS FEES AlSID FJO?DSES
INStJRA:NCE
5,299..42
1,566,..83
4,426.~.75
15,60'2.;84
427.4144
1$448..58
112...79 -'
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91..35
6'1~.12
5884. '10
J..122.85
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CI:'l'I' OF ST. 'fEIOMASt SHARE
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~anuary loth. 1955.
~ 8'1". moMAS, stmmmm ROADS COmfiSSION
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met at the Oou.r1;; House at 2 p.m.
Present - Ray BOVm:r
GEORGE GROSS
C.b.air.man
COmmUssioner
WI. R. COULTER
1'R1!'m>. A. BEI:L
C.C1lmmiS sioner
Cc~unty Engineer.
TEE I~ of ,the meeting held OIl SElp;tember 23rd.' 1954
were read and appr0Ve~.
A L"E'rI'ER from ;r. W. G. MacDougall, Cc)mmission ~o(unsel
af the Canadian DatiGna1 Rail\~laysJ dated !)ecE~mber 22nd. 1954,
wi. th an accompanying appliea.tioJ1 to the < Boarcl of Transport
tor an order to ins.tall WO flashing oli.ght sjlgnals and
O1'le bell at 'the level erossing on st. George stree't, was cons~iderea..
:r~ WAS mOVED BY
SECONl)Ei> BY
GEORGE CROSS
w. R. <.COULTER
'fRAT THE mGmEER reply to ..the le'ttej~ and application
ex'p'ressillg -the fac1i that the Gommissioners a:~ hesitant to
eons8Dt 'to ,theinstalla.tion of the signalS i:f it wi~l delay
,the eonstrucrtionof a grade separatico]l at this si'te.
CABBIED.
iT WAS MOVlID') BY
SEOONDED BY
GEORGE GROSS
R. B. BOWEr
THAT lI1. R. GOm.TER aet as Ohairman for the year 1955.
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lanu~ry 10th. 1955.
I! WAS MOVED BY
SECONDED BY
GEORGE CROSS
R. B. BOWF1i(
THAT "the Ohairman and Members of' the
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OOmm.:tSSiOD each be paid $ lOO~()() and expenses tox' the year 1955.'
CARRIED.
A LETTER tram William Hodgel Secretary of
Lookets Oommunity Club was eonsiclereci by the Commission.
'fhe Club\ asked that the sidewalk i'n front of 117'6 Bala.clava street
be repaired. The EngiD.eer was instruoted to infc,rm ~~. Hodge ,'that
"the repair or oonstruction of sidewalks was the liability of the
100al MU1liCip'ality, in 'this case the Township of Yarmouth.
Tm: lVJEETIHG adjourmedto mee't on ;ranua17 17th.
at 2 p.m.
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