1980 Suburban Road Committee
(MRS.) R.M. DANIEL
DEPUTY CL.ERK-TREASURER
9 GLADSTONE AVENUE
G.C. LEVERTON, A.M.C.T.
COUNTY CL.ERK AND TREASURER
ST. THOMAS, ONTARIO
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PHONE (519) 631-1460
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Dear Albert:
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ounty Govern."llent COl1llill ttee from COl1llil:t t tee.
The Government Committee
that registration one '$
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Registration $ 35.00
day'eallQwance 100.00
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t~.lould you please forw.....ard..., :tn the self addressed ,
your tag for our records?
County Council at the October Ses$ion, .L ':, l'J t a
recommendation that all outside appointees to Local Boards etc.~
be prior ap p-rove, 1 of County $ in
to be reimbursement attenda.nce convent:l.o1'l$.
CO'llncil the opinion that you should pr1.or
approvc1.1 t wi th the requi-rement " Would you
please s in mind for 1981.
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SUBURBAN ROADS COMMISSION ASSOCIATION
198Q -',"1981 EXECUTIVE
Presi dent:
Nrs.Lin Good
212 Fairway Hills Crescent
Kingston:>> Ontario
Past President:
Mr. Clarence Wilson
R.R. 3
Chatham, Ontario
Vice President:
Mr. John Stephens
R. R. 1 .
St. Marys:>> Ontario
Secretary-Treasurer
Mr. A.R. Holmes, P. En9.
County Court House
Guelph', Ontario
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DIRECTORS
WESTERN
EASTERN
Mr. Morley Howe
R. R. 2
Strathroy:>> Ontario
Mr. Doug Whitley
217 McGill Street
Trenton, Ontario
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Mr. John Stephens
R. R. 1
St. 't1arys:>> Onta ri 0
Hr. Frank Hutnik
2300 Howard Avenue
Windsor, Ontario
Mr. Don McDona1d,P. Eng.,
Counties of Stol:mont, Dundas &
Glengarry
P.O. Box 1022
Cornwall, Ontario
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Mrs. Lin Good
212 Fai n'lay Hill s Crescen t
Kingston, Ontario
SUBURBAN ROADS COMMISSION ASSOCIATION
MINUTES OF WESTERN GROUP MEETING
. MIDD~ES~X~_~~91LNJJCOUNCIL CHAMBERS - LONDON
Friday, June 20, 1980
Proceedings began at 10:15 A.M. with Mr. John Stephens of St. Marys, Chairman of
the Western Group, presiding. A total of 38 plus guests from 11 Commissions
attended, namely: Barrie - 1; Brantford - 2; Chatham - 3; Guelph - 3; London -7;
Owen Sound - 4; Sarnia - 2; St. Marys - 3; St. Thomas - 2; Stratford - 4; Windsor -
4; M.T.C. - 3. .
The group was welcomed by Middlesex Warden Fred Lewis and Charlie Cousins of the
London Suburban Road Commission.
Moved by Wa 1 ter Marti n "(Chatham) and seconded by Roy Gordon (Gue: 1 ph) that the 1979
minutes be adopted as read.
Ron Eddy (Middlesex Clerk-Administration) read the report of liThe Special Advisory
Committee to the Minister" as" it related to suburban roads. Alan Holmes (Guelph)
Chairman of the sub committee elaborated on the report.
Bill .33a5 it affected suburban commissions was read. It stated that 1) elected
councillors were eligible to sit on commissions and 2) the term of office would be
the same a s the counc. i 1 .
George Spencer (Brantford) advised the commission that Brantford and Brant County
had just completed a study and if suburban commissions were replaced by area or
regional government, Brantford's non-separated share would be approximately $900,000
instead of $100,000.
Bob Moore (St. Thomas) advised that the St. Thomas situation was similar in that
the. Regional Road costs would be at least three times greater than the present
cost to the city.
Other items discussed were:
1) Bill 80.and 173 regarding payment of commission members for meetings and
conventions (opinions varied but most paid there expenses from commission .funds)
2) Membership in R.T.A.C. (London, Sarnia,Chatham, St. Thomas and Stratford were
not. members). .
3) The O.P.P.. will..not enforcecoun".ty parking and sign by-laws:~ etc. The only
. solution seemed to be a County Enforcement By-law officer.
4) Control of entrances which are ;nsta11edwithout County aPPlf'ova1.
Moved by Don Husson (London) and Seconded by Mike Wilson (Chatham) that we lend
our support to having the Act changed to give municipalities c.ornplete control
of entrances. Carri ed.
5) There was a lengthy discussion as to whether a County could pass regulating
by-laws), own property and equipment, etc.
Alan Holmes (Guelph) was going to" talk to Peter Patterson, r~.T.C. concerning
what aut~ori ty the comm;ss; ons. actua 11y had.
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6) The possibility of plowing in storm fences in fields adjacemt to highways an'd
reducing salt for winter control was briefly discussed.
Since Sarnia was going to be in the process of building a new County building in
1981, Owen Sound agreed to host the 1981 meeting.
It was moved by Mike Wilson (Chatham) and seconded by Don Derrick (Sarnia) that
the following officers be 'appo,inted for the coming year:
President - John Stephens - St. Marys
Directors. - Morley Howe - London
- Frank Hutnik - Windsor
Secretary - Tom Collings - Stratford
Following the meeting a reception and smorgasbord was held in the County building
followed. by a tour of the new Art Gallery and the old County Court House and Jail
which is in the process of being restored.
Respectfully Submitted!,
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Tom Collings
ST. THOMAS, ONTARIO
FEBRUARY 12, 1980
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THE ST. THOMAS SUBURBAN ROAD COMMISSION MET at the Engineers Office on
February 12, 1980, at 9:30 a.m. Present A. Auckland, D. Stokes, and J. Hindley.
THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF December 19, 1979 were read and approved.
THE ENGINEER REPORTED that the City of St. Thomas had appointed Donald
Stokes to complete the term of George Colledge.
"MOVED BY: J. HINDLEY
SECONDED BY: D. STOKES
THAT A. AUCKLAND BE CHAIRMAN OF THE ST. THOMAS SUBURBAN ROAD COMMISSION
FOR 1980.
CARRIED."
"MOVED BY:
D. STOKES
SECONDED BY:
A. AUCKLAND
THAT THE HONORARIUM FOR JIM HINDLEY BE $150.00 IN 1980 AND THAT HIS
CONVENTION EXPENSES BE PAID ON THE SAME BASIS AS COUNTY COUNCIL
REPRESENTATIVE ON THE SUBURBAN ROADS COMMISSION I'
CARRIED."
"MOVED BY: J. HINDLEY
SECONDED BY~ D. STOKES
THAT THE MEMBERSHIP FEES FOR 1980 IN THE ONTARIO GOOD ROADS ASSOCIATION
AND THE SUBURBAN ROAD COMMISSION ASSOCIATION BE PAID.
CARRIED."
ST. THOMAS, ONTARIO
FEBRUARY 12, 1980
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THE ENGINEER REPORTED:
1. That Winter Control had been light.
2. That cutting of dead tre~s was underway.
3. That trees for construction on Road 22 would be cut in the next
month.
4. That two land plans on Road 30 with George Sloan and Morris Taylor
properties had been registered.
5. That land purchase plans were still outstanding for Colin and David
Ferguson properties and for properties of the K.C.C.A.
6. That widening for Road 22 had been purchased from Doug Sawyer..'
CORRESPONDENCE WAS NOTED from the Ministry of Transportation and
Communications with the Minsterially adjusted assessment of St. Thomas, which
would provide a ~ Mill levy of $37,550 for 1980 up from $36,450 in 1979
THE ENGINEER REPORTED that legislation was being0QflsideTed to change the
term of the Suburban Road Commission to coincide with Council terms and that
Municipal Councillors could be appointed as Suburban Road Commissioners.
The 1979 Expenditures as attached were revised.
"MOVED BY:
D. STOKES
SECONDED BY:
J. HINDLEY
THAT THE STATEMENT OF EXPENDITURES ON THE ST. THOMAS SUBURBAN ROAD
SYSTEM FOR 1979 BE ACCEPTED AND FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY OF ELGIN AND
THE CITY OF ST. THOMAS,
CARRIED."
ST. THOMAS, ONTARIO
FEBRUARY 12, 1980
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The attached Budget was considered.
"MOVED BY:
D. STOKES
SECONDED BY: J. HINDLEY
THAT THE CITY OF ST. THOMAS BE ADVISED THAT THE~ MILL ASSESSMENT FOR
SUBURBAN ROAD PURPOSES ON THE MINISTRY OF TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNICATIONS
RESIVES ASSESSMENT OF $75,100,000 WILL BE REQUIRED FOR SUBURBAN ROAD
PURPOSES IN 1980 (LEVY WILL BE $37,550).
CARRIED."
"MOVED BY:
D. STOKES
SECONDED BY: J. HINDLEY
THAT WE ADOPT THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 1980 EXPENDITURES ON THE ST. THOMAS
SUBURBAN ROAD SYSTEM IN THE AM:OUNT OF $272,400 AND THAT THE BUDGET BE
FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY OF ELGIN AND THE CITY OF ST. THOMAS FOR APPROVAL.
CARRIED.II'
THE MEETING ADJOURNED TO THE CALL OF THE CHAIRNAN.
CHAIRMAN
ROBERT A. BARRETT, A.M.C.T., C.M.C.
City Clerk - Administrator
PETER J. LEACK, A.M.C.T.
Deputy City Clerk
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Department of Administrative Services
P.O. Box 520, City Hall
St. Thomas, Ontario
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Telephone (519) 631-1680
Corporation of the City of St. Thomas
January 8th, 1980
Mr. Donald R.Stokes
19 Paulson Court
St. Thomas, Ontario
Re: st. Thomas Suburban Roads Commission
Dear Mr. Stokes:
This is to advise you that the Council of the Cit:y .of st. Thomas
has appointed you as their representative for thE~ St. Thomas
Suburban Roads Commission for. the term of 1980 - July 1, 1983.
Sin~erelY, ~
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ST. THOMAS SUBURBAN ROAD... COMMISSION
1980 BUDGET
January 23, 19~O
A - Construction
Land Purchase
$
20,000
Road 22,. Pr~Enginel3ring, TreeCut1;.~XJ:g, etc. 12,000
Construction Road 30 (coqtplete work) 6,000
Construction Road 31 (complete work) 2,.000
Construction Road 52 (complete work) S,OQO
$ 4a,000
B ....Aspha1 tuResurJasiXl&
Road 22 from Road 27 South approximately 1 mile
$ 65,000
C -Maintenance
A.. 13ridge s&C4lvert.$
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B ... 1 GrafSs Cutting~~~f;T a g,Eff:lug
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2,000
... 2 Tree Cutting
6,000
- 4 Drainage
6,000
... 5 Roadside Mai.ntenance
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- 6 TreeP1.antirtg
500
- 7 Drainage Assessment s (Maintenance)
NIL
...11 Weed Spraying
1,500
C .... 1 Repairs to Pavement
12,000
.. 2 Sweeping
1,000
4,000
.. 3 Shoulder Maintena.nce
.... 4 Surface Treatment:
NIL
D - 2 Grading Gravel Roads
5,000
- 3 Calcium Chloride
7,000
... 4 Prime
6,000
.. .5 Grave1Resurfacing
4,000
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Winter Control
60,000
F - 1 Pavement Marking 7,000
_ 2 Signs 5,000
... 3 Guide Rai1 NIL
.. 4 Railroad Protection 4,00.0
$ .132,000
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COUNTY OF ELGIN
ST. THOMAS SUBURBAN ROAD COMMISSION
19'80 BUDGET
Jan1.1a1:'Y 23, 1980
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It-overhead
Total County Overhead is (i! stimatedat$ 288,000. Th(i! Sub1.u:ban
Road Commission sha1:'e of the total work is estitnatedat l 245,000
of the total work of $ 2,594,000 which is approxima1::ely9~4%. Thus
St. Thomas Suburban Road Commission shar(i! ofOVerhe~~d is 9.4% or
$. 27,000.
SUMMA!!
A - Construction
$. .48, 000
C - Mairttenance
65,000
132,000
27,000
B.~ A.spha1 t: Resurfacing
D ... OVerhead
.,+<
E - Items Not. Subsidized by Mini.stry of
Transportation .;lnd Communications
400
TOTAL BUDGET
$ Z74,4QQ
CALCULATION OFC.ITY OF ST. THOMAS SHARE .OE:
1980. BUDG.ET
The estimated M.T.C_ Supsic1y on operations is 74.4". of the
operation budget ( $27 2, 000 )andthe>1:4..T.C.'Sub,si.dy .l$E$t:i.w.ated
at $202,368.
The balance of the Budget ($272,400 1es$ $202,368):18 shared
between the City of St. Tholll;as and the County of Elgin. This
share is 50% of $70,032 01:' $34,016
The 1980% mill cont.ributtQ1lby the City of St. Thomas is
.:77;, $00. 3.'25S--D
Estitnatecl Surplus on 198Cf operation
$ 2,.534
LESS Defic4t~ for 1979
9.1.7_40
$ .7,.206
Estimated Deficient to 1981
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ST. THOMAS SUBURBAN ROAD COMMISSION
The St. Thomas Suburban Road Commission has jurisdi.ction over 47.3
miles of road out of the total 296.7 Road System in the County.
Construction and maintenance costs are kept separate on these roads.
The Commission pays a portion of the overhead costs (approximately 11%
of the total). The Commission owns no equipment or tool s bu.t pays a
"cost" rental' rate to the County when the equipment is used on
Commission Roads.
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Overall policy on the Commission Roads is directed by your Coun~y
Council Road Committee.
A detailed summary of costs on th(~ C()mmiss1on rh,)'id~lis attached as
is a summary of the costs of maintenance and overhead on the combined
County and Suburban System.
Commission Roads Include:
Road 11 - (South of Ford Plant) from Highway 4 to Road 26.
Road 16 - from St. Thomas to Finga1.
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Road 22 - (Fairview Avenue) from St. Thomas to Road 24.
Road 25 - Wellington Road.
Road 26 - St. George Street and Bostwick Road.
Road 28 - Centennial Avenue from Road 45 to Highway 3.
Road 29 -
Road 30 - Radio Road
Road 31 - Da1ewood Road.
Road 52 - Highway 3 (St. Thomas Expressway to HighwaY 73).
Road 56 .. Elm Street from Centennial Avenue to St. Thomas.